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If Republicans want to quickly bring the government shutdown to an end, they will need to get one particularly formidable Senate Democrat on board.

New Hampshire Sen. Jeanne Shaheen has emerged as a central player in the bipartisan back-channeling that has ramped up this week as congressional leaders and President Donald Trump remain locked in a bitter stalemate.

Shaheen brings key credentials to the negotiating table. She’s an original proponent of the enhanced Obamacare tax credits whose expiration has emerged as a key flashpoint in the shutdown debate. She’s a veteran appropriator who has long despised government shutdowns. And she’s set to retire next year after 18 years in the Senate, insulating her from some of the political pressures her colleagues are feeling.

Earlier this year, Shaheen was one of the 10 Democrats who helped advance a GOP-written stopgap to avoid a March shutdown — and one of two members of the caucus who ultimately voted for it. This time around, she’s holding out as she works to forge some sort of consensus that could reopen the government while putting Congress on a path to extend the tax credits past the end of the year.

“I’ve been in conversations with a number of colleagues on both sides of the aisle,” Shaheen told reporters this week after the bipartisan Senate talks spilled into the open, adding that the insurance subsidies are “one of the areas that we ought to be able to find agreement on.”

While Shaheen has an independent streak, Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and other party leaders are aware of her outreach, fellow Democrats say, and in some cases she has asked her colleagues to try to keep lines of communication open.

“She’s doing a good job,” said Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who has kept in close touch with Shaheen. “There’s a couple of times where she’s said, ‘Hey, can you do this?’ to move the ball, ‘This person it might be better for you to talk to.’”

Shaheen, whose office declined to comment, has been careful not to delve into the nitty-gritty of her discussions. But she is hardly keeping her efforts a secret. She has done a round of media appearances this week — including on Fox News — to stress that a deal could be in reach if congressional leaders come together.

Lending that claim credibility is her long involvement in other bipartisan negotiations. That includes a Senate “gang” that helped bring an end to a brief shutdown in early 2018. She was also involved in bipartisan talks during former President Joe Biden’s administration, including a 2021 infrastructure deal.

More recently, she’s built close relationships with Republicans as the top Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee, making common cause in defense of NATO and against Russian President Vladimir Putin — who has put her on a blacklist of Americans created in response to sanction efforts. She recently helped advance Mike Waltz’s UN ambassador nomination in exchange for a foreign aid deal.

Top Republican leaders now see her among the handful of Democrats who they believe want to find a quick way out of the shutdown stalemate. Ahead of the Oct. 1 shutdown, Shaheen declined for days to say how she would vote on a last-ditch attempt to pass a House-approved stopgap bill — the only off-ramp then available. Before and immediately after the Tuesday vote, she was spotted talking with several Republican senators, including Majority Leader John Thune.

“I think she’s one of many, as you know, on her side who tends to be kind of more in the reasonable caucus,” Thune said in an interview. “I think she’s looking for a path forward.”

Shaheen has been careful not to box herself or her colleagues in as they try to figure out an agreement about how to get out of the shutdown. And she’s opened the door to clamping down on the credits in order to win GOP support for extending them

While she hasn’t publicly locked herself into any specific proposal, she noted recently that nearly everyone who is getting help through the subsidies to pay for their health insurance makes less than $200,000 a year — an income figure that has also been raised by House moderates. Republicans are certain to press for an income cap as part of any agreement on an extension.

GOP senators say the health insurance subsidies are not her only concern. She is also looking at how to get full-year appropriations bills moving. (The funding bill she helps oversee as a subcommittee ranking member, for the Department of Agriculture, is part of a three-bill package that has effectively been stuck because of the shutdown fight.)

A person who has spoken with Shaheen who was granted anonymity to speak freely about her thinking said the senator is aware that Democrats are operating from a structural disadvantage since Republicans control the House, Senate and White House. The person added that while she is pushing for the best possible outcome and supports larger Democratic aims, she’s also being realistic about what is achievable in the negotiations.

Sen. Mike Rounds of South Dakota, who is part of the group of Republicans talking to Shaheen, called her a “good partner” in the effort to find an end to the shutdown.

“She’s been kind of a good purveyor of the message,” Rounds said. “I mean, she gets the fact that we’re not going to do anything until we get out of the shutdown. So she’s trying to figure out a way to convince more of her team that we need to get this shutdown behind us and then we can get back to regular order.”

Senate Majority Leader John Thune said on Thursday that it’s “unlikely” senators will be in the Capitol voting this weekend, all but guaranteeing the government shutdown goes into next week.

“They’ll have a fourth chance tomorrow to vote to open up the government, and if that fails, we’ll give them the weekend to think about it, and then we’ll come back and vote on Monday,” Thune told reporters.

Thune’s comments come as congressional leaders and the White House remain in a stalemate on the second day of the shutdown. Thune left the door open to meeting with Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer this week but seemed skeptical that a sitdown would produce a breakthrough.

Schumer said in a statement Thursday that Republicans need to work with Democrats “to reach an agreement to reopen the government and lower healthcare costs” and predicted that GOP unity will crack the longer the shutdown drags on.

Thune, however, reiterated he won’t negotiate the substance of a deal to extend expiring Affordable Care Act health insurance subsidies while the government is closed. He added that while he’s being updated on bipartisan talks among rank-and-file senators — and keeping the White House updated on what Democrats are floating — “it all starts with reopening the government.”

Some Democrats have floated possible concessions that could be included in a deal short of attaching an extension of the ACA subsidies to a stopgap funding bill. Those include possibly passing full-year appropriations bills or moving from the seven-week stopgap bill passed by the House to a shorter punt. Some have argued for a Nov. 1 expiration date to align with the HealthCare.gov open enrollment period.

But Thune rejected that idea, saying Democrats were “quibbling over pretty small stuff” in arguing for Nov. 1 versus the Nov. 21 deadline embedded in the House stopgap. He also warned that “there’s no way you can do a straight-up extension” of the Affordable Care Act subsidies.

Rep. Robert Garcia (D-Calif.), the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, is urging acting Special Counsel Jamieson Greer to investigate the White House for its messaging on the government shutdown, which he argues is in violation of federal law.

In a letter to Greer on Thursday, Garcia wrote that the messaging appears to contravene the Hatch Act, which bars federal employees from engaging in political activity.

“Violations of the law must be held accountable,” he wrote.

Senate Democrats continue to hold out for an extension on Affordable Care Act insurance subsidies, with the government shutdown in its second day. But President Donald Trump and White House allies are heaping pressure on the party’s moderate wing to join Republicans’ continuing resolution, threatening mass layoffs and pulling funding from Democratic-leaning states and cities.

Garcia has taken issue with a key element of White House messaging: Banners atop public websites for several agencies — including the Department of Housing and Urban Development and the Department of Agriculture — that blame Democrats for the shutdown

“The Radical Left in Congress shut down the government,” reads a message posted to HUD’s website. “HUD will use available resources to help Americans in need.”

Garcia wrote that the alleged violations “fit a pattern of abuse and politicization of Executive Branch agencies, which we will investigate fully.”

On Wednesday, the nonprofit Public Citizen filed complaints against HUD and the Small Business Administration for the messaging.

“The Administration’s statements make it abundantly clear that these messages are intended to circumvent the law, further highlighting the need for an immediate investigation,” Garcia wrote. “Federal agencies work for the American people, not a political party.”

Some ethics experts that spoke to POLITICO on Wednesday said the messaging may not violate the Hatch Act — but could violate a separate law called the Anti-Lobbying Act.

“It’s an objective fact that Democrats are responsible for the government shutdown, the Trump Administration is simply sharing the truth with the American people,” White House spokesperson Abigail Jackson told POLITICO in a statement.

Speaker Mike Johnson moved to shut down any attempts to negotiate a way out of the shutdown Thursday as some senators look for off-ramps.

Johnson said in a news conference outside his Capitol office that Democrats should stop pressing Republicans to come to any agreement to reopen the government, saying Senate Democrats instead need to pass the seven-week stopgap bill that had already cleared the House.

“I quite literally have nothing to negotiate,” Johnson said, before again warning that the shutdown will “inflict pain” on Americans as it drags on.

Still, Johnson is balancing concerns from some Republicans wary of President Donald Trump’s plans to slash federal workers and certain program funding amid the shutdown. Two House Republicans raised concerns directly with Vought on a private call Wednesday afternoon.

Before Johnson spoke, Trump said would meet Thursday with White House budget director Russ Vought to determine which “Democrat Agencies” they would cut.

Other House Republicans, meanwhile, are livid any GOP senators would be willing to talk about off-ramps to the shutdown, including promises of health care negotiations. Rep. Rick Allen of Georgia railed against attempts to extend the expiring Affordable Care Act insurance subsidies that are at the center of the Democratic shutdown demands during the House GOP call Wednesday. He pressed Republicans to not just allow the subsidies to expire but to rekindle their attempts to repeal and replace the ACA altogether.

Johnson backed Trump in saying the president has the authority to slash federal workers and funding during the shutdown. He added Trump takes “no pleasure” in it.

“He doesn’t want to do it,” Johnson said.

The speaker also referenced a flurry of inflammatory AI-generated deepfake videos, including several that Trump posted after his Monday White House sitdown with congressional leaders depicting House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries in a sombrero and mustache. One has fabricated audio of Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer saying Democrats need to court undocumented immigrants because voters have turned on their “trans bullshit.”

Johnson said he’d advise Jeffries to “just ignore it.”

The speaker also criticized Senate leaders for entertaining a plan to leave Washington for the weekend after voting a fourth time on the House-passed stopgap Friday. “Of course” the Senate should stay through the weekend and keep voting, Johnson said.

“The House is coming back next week, hoping they will be sending us something to work on, that we can get back to the work of the people,” he said. “They’re anxious to come back.”

Senate Majority Leader John Thune isn’t endorsing the slash-and-burn campaign White House budget director Russ Vought has planned for the federal government during the pending shutdown.

But he says Democrats have no one to blame for it but themselves.

“This is the risk of shutting down the government and handing the keys to Russ Vought,” the Senate majority leader said in an exclusive interview Wednesday in the Capitol, adding that “there should have been an expectation” among Democrats that Vought’s Office of Management and Budget could broadly target government workers and programs in a shutdown.

Thune spoke on the same day that several Republicans aired discomfort with Vought’s moves after the shutdown went into effect. Rep. Mike Lawler of New York spoke out against his decision to hold up major transportation projects in his state, while Reps. Blake Moore of Utah and Brian Babin of Texas spoke up on a private House GOP call with Vought raising qualms about potential mass layoffs.

Vought’s actions also risk being a distraction for Republicans, who have sought to stick to a simple message putting the onus on Democrats to reopen the government. Pressed on whether Vought was muddying the waters, Thune said, “The only thing I would say about that is yes, and we don’t control what he’s going to do.”

The White House has made no secret that its strategy is to inflict maximum political pressure on Democrats to try to get them to reopen the government. Vought warned ahead of the start of the shutdown that OMB would take aggressive steps beyond typical furloughs, where employees are brought back to work after the government reopens.

The budget office directed agencies in a memo first reported by POLITICO last week to put together plans for reductions-in-force — or firings — of federal employees. Vought himself told House Republicans during the Wednesday call that those firings would start in a “day or two.”

“I can’t control that,” Thune said about decisions made by OMB. “But the Democrats ought to think long and hard about keeping this thing going for a long time, because it won’t be without consequence, I’m sure.”

Ten Democrats helped advance a GOP funding bill in March over concerns that a shutdown would only empower Vought and Trump. And one member of the Senate Democratic caucus, Sen. Angus King (I-Maine), said he voted for the House-passed, GOP-led stopgap bill this week because he believes a shutdown would empower the administration to do grave damage to the federal bureaucracy.

But most Democrats have said Vought’s tactics are a bluff and that he is targeting funding that the administration would have otherwise targeted outside of a shutdown.

“President Trump has spent the year hurting families, killing jobs, and raising people’s costs, and now he and Russ Vought are gleefully using the shutdown they have caused as a pretext to inflict even more pain,” Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) said in a statement Wednesday.

“If Donald Trump and Russ Vought think these ugly intimidation tactics will work, they are sorely mistaken,” added Murray, the top Democratic appropriator in the Senate.

President Donald Trump said Thursday that he’ll speak with Office of Management and Budget Director Russ Vought about which ”Democrat Agencies” should be nixed as the government shutdown enters its second day.

“I have a meeting today with Russ Vought, he of PROJECT 2025 Fame, to determine which of the many Democrat Agencies, most of which are a political SCAM, he recommends to be cut, and whether or not those cuts will be temporary or permanent,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

Seven hundred and fifty thousand federal employees could be furloughed, according to the Congressional Budget Office. But while the dismissals that often accompany shutdowns are generally temporary, Vought’s Office of Management and Budget circulated a memo last week asking agencies to prepare major reduction-in-force plans for a shutdown scenario.

Vought told House Republicans on Wednesday that mass firings would kick off “in a day or two.”

White House officials are seeking to portray any layoffs as a necessary and disciplined step, as Democrats push to extend insurance subsidies for the Affordable Care Act in exchange for their votes on the GOP’s continuing resolution.

“If they’re so worried about the effect this is having on the American people, and they should be, what they should do is reopen the government,” Vice President JD Vance told reporters at a White House press briefing on Wednesday. “Not complain about how we respond to the fact that Chuck Schumer and the Democrats have shut down the government in the first place.”

But Trump has repeatedly suggested that he’s looking forward to the job cuts.

“I can’t believe the Radical Left Democrats gave me this unprecedented opportunity,” he wrote on Truth Social. “They are not stupid people, so maybe this is their way of wanting to, quietly and quickly, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”

Vought has already announced plans to claw back funding from Democratic-led cities and states. On Wednesday, he wrote on X that the White House was cutting $8 billion in energy funding from 16 states, all of which voted for former Vice President Kamala Harris in the 2024 election. The administration is also threatening to withhold funding for New York City’s Gateway Tunnel project.

Bipartisan rank-and-file negotiations on expiring Obamacare subsidies are picking up steam as lawmakers hunt for a shutdown off-ramp.

Republicans still say those talks won’t lead to action until the government reopens. Senate Majority Leader John Thune underscored this point in an exclusive interview Wednesday with POLITICO, where he said he needs to see a “critical mass” of Democrats offer support for the House-passed funding bill before agreeing to anything related to the enhanced tax credits.

So far, only Sens. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-Nev.), John Fetterman (D-Pa.) and Angus King (I-Maine) have broken rank to advance the GOP-led continuing resolution. Thune needs another five, at least.

“I keep telling them: When they have eight or 10 — preferably 10, or more … let me know if there’s some conversation they want to have,” Thune said.

Thune is betting that more Senate Democrats will flip as the shutdown pain persists — OMB Director Russ Vought threatened Wednesday to proceed with mass firings and slashed funding for crucial infrastructure and energy projects.

But Thune also thinks Democrats could be motivated by the member-level discussions taking place around what bipartisan work can be done under a functioning government — for instance, pairing an extension of the Affordable Care Act subsidies due to sunset Dec. 31 with some policy changes sought by Republicans.

The talks gained momentum in floor huddles Wednesday as senators voted against the House GOP’s stopgap for the third time. Senators were mostly “spitballing” ideas, as Sen. Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.) put it. Some Republicans suggested working out a framework for the “mechanics” of negotiations around the tax credits in exchange for Democratic votes to end the shutdown.

And while some Democrats are dug in against any CR that doesn’t include a clean extension of the tax credits, others have signaled they’re softening on that red line as they hear more positive reinforcement from Republicans about wanting to extend the credits rather than see millions kicked off insurance and premium hikes skyrocket.

“There are Republicans telling us, ‘We agree with you. For our own interest, we have to fix this,’” Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who is involved in the talks, said Wednesday.

Hard-liners, however, could complicate matters as they rail against the subsidies and train their ire on any GOP senator involved in health care discussions.

“It’s profoundly foolish for the usual suspects in the Senate to undermine the strongest position the president and Republicans hold in the wake of the untenable shutdown position Democrats have staked out,” Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) told POLITICO. “It’s nuts.”

What else we’re watching:

— House GOP leaders to speak: Speaker Mike Johnson, Majority Leader Steve Scalise, Majority Whip Tom Emmer and GOP Conference Chair Lisa McClain will hold a 10 a.m. press conference in the speaker’s small rotunda. It comes two days into the government shutdown and despite the fact that the House is still on recess.

Jordain Carney contributed to this report.

Hakeem Jeffries has spent nearly three years in relative anonymity as House minority leader. Now the New York Democrat is treating the government shutdown fight as a potential breakout moment.

Shedding his reputation as a cool, careful and sometimes overly calculating leader, Jeffries has staked out a much more aggressive approach in recent weeks as he and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer careened into a confrontation with President Donald Trump and congressional Republicans.

While the GOP leaders have so far been more eager to dog his fellow Brooklynite — calling it a “Schumer shutdown,” for instance, after Senate Democrats withheld their votes for a House-passed stopgap bill — Jeffries has made conspicuous moves to make himself a main character in the standoff.

More precisely, he has tried to pick a fight with Trump — first accusing him of not knowing his name, then calling a deepfake video the president posted depicting Jeffries in a sombrero and mustache “racist,” demanding Trump address any further criticism“to my face,” and telling Trump budget chief Russ Vought to “get lost,” among other attacks.

“The president has been engaging in irresponsible and unserious behavior, demonstrating that all along, Republicans wanted to shut the government down,” Jeffries told reporters Wednesday, shortly before he posted a unflattering meme of Vice President JD Vance on his X account.

The tenor of his sparring has contrasted with that of Schumer, who has steered away from calling the deepfake video racist and has instead called it part of a “tantrum” that proves Trump is not serious about negotiating an end to the shutdown. It’s also a departure from Jeffries’ predecessor, former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, whose favored tactic in dealing with Trump was the cutting offhand remark.

But Jeffries’ more bombastic approach is winning praise from elements of the party that want to see more fight out of their leaders.

“They are in the minority over there, and they’re a majoritarian body where the minority has very little voice in terms of affecting the outcomes of events like this,” said Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.). “And so he’s showing what an oppositional party leader should do — a lot of fight, a lot of strength — and frankly, the ability to keep Democrats united on the other side of the Capitol.“

Whether he has earned the respect that he so clearly seeks remains unsettled. Trump still has yet to utter Jeffries’ name in public. He referred to him Tuesday to reporters as “a very nice gentleman who I didn’t really know — you know who I’m talking about.”

But after posting the first AI-generated video Monday that had Schumer doing all the talking and Jeffries simply appearing mustachioed in the background, Trump posted another video Tuesday solely starring a deepfaked Jeffries.

Vance chimed in Wednesday from the White House: “I will tell Hakeem Jeffries right now, I make a solemn promise to you that if you help us reopen the government, the sombrero memes will stop.”

Trump might be forgiven for not having Jeffries’ name on the tip of his tongue. Unlike with Schumer — whom Trump has known for decades and was a frequent sparring partner during his first term — Jeffries had no substantial interaction with the president before Monday’s Oval Office meeting.

As House minority leader, he holds the least power of the four top congressional leaders — unlike senators, Democrats in the chamber can be completely sidelined by a united GOP majority — and he is not well known nationally.

Just under half of Americans have never heard of him, according to a recent Pew Research Center poll, versus about a quarter for Schumer, who has held his top position since 2017. Before Pelosi stepped down from a 20-year run as the top House Democrat, only 3 percent of Americans surveyed told Pew they’d never heard of her.

Ahead of the sitdown, Jeffries spoke about Trump with an ally who has long experience dealing with the president — civil rights leader Al Sharpton. He said in an interview that in the weekend conversation that otherwise focused on the New York City mayoral race, Jeffries said he didn’t know what to expect out of the meeting.

“I told him I’ve been fighting with Trump for 35 years, from the Central Park Five all the way through, and [that] sometimes he tried to act nice,” Sharpton said. “I said, ‘I find him to be a day trader — he says whatever will work to his advantage at that particular time. I don’t think Donald Trump believes in anything but Donald Trump.’ And Hakeem kind of chuckled.”

After walking out of the White House, Jeffries hewed closely to health-care-focused talking points that he and Schumer have carefully honed since infamously diverging on a prior GOP-written spending bill back in March.

Then Trump posted the AI-generated video, and Jeffries let loose, calling it “bigoted” and then “racist and fake.” It was a response that stunned some of his colleagues, who agreed with the assessment but also knew Jeffries had long counseled Democrats not to take Trump’s “bait.”

Rep. Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.), a longtime Jeffries ally, said it was the first time he’d ever heard the leader call a personal attack “racist.”

“I was furious, and no one would blame the leader if he said I didn’t want to be around this guy or get somebody else to take my place to interact with the White House,” Cleaver said. “He’s going to be a professional about it.”

“It was blatant. It was personal. It was insulting. And I think that Hakeem had to respond for his own self-respect,” added Sharpton.

Asked about Jeffries’ response, White House spokesperson Abigail Jackson said, “Anyone who’s feigning outrage over a perfect meme should instead focus on the countless Americans who will suffer as a result of the Democrat shutdown.”

That Jeffries mounted a more aggressive response than Schumer to Trump’s attacks is of little consequence in terms of the shutdown fight. Besides his own personal feelings, some Democrats noted it reflects the more rough-and-tumble style in the House and voters’ desire for a more pugilistic approach to Trump.

But there have also been small tactical differences between the two leaders that could get magnified as the standoff wears on. Notably, Jeffries has staked out some harder lines than Schumer — insisting, for instance, that any health care agreement be in writing and attached to any bill reopening the government, while Schumer has left room to cut an unwritten side deal.

One prominent House Democrat believes Jeffries has been handling himself well.

“He has seized the moment,” Pelosi said in a brief interview. “He’s doing a great job. I have no guidance for him except to keep on doing what he’s doing.”

Jennifer Scholtes contributed to this report.

Senate Majority Leader John Thune laid out a path to end the government shutdown in an exclusive interview Wednesday, saying he is willing to discuss the shape of future health care negotiations if a “critical mass” of Democrats say they are willing to support a House-passed funding bill in return.

The comments, made in his Capitol office less than 18 hours into the first shutdown since 2019, are in keeping with the South Dakota Republican’s current strategy — which is to let pressure build on Democrats to back the GOP-led House stopgap as the only solution.

But Thune acknowledged that he has had back-channel conversations with Democrats and said he’s willing to discuss how to structure a negotiation on Obamacare insurance subsidies that are set to lapse at the end of the year.

“I keep telling them: When they have eight or 10 — preferably 10, or more — when they have a critical mass, let me know if there’s a conversation they want to have,” Thune said.

He insisted he would not negotiate on the substance of an extension while the government is closed. But pressed on whether he was open to discussions with Democrats about how the health care negotiations might work post-shutdown or how to advance full-year appropriations bills, Thune said, “We are.”

“Some of those conversations are happening,” he added. “With our members and their members there’s a lot of back-and-forth going on right now about some of the things they would like to see happen.”

Those bipartisan conversations spilled into public view Wednesday when a large group of senators talked on the Senate floor about how the government might be reopened. The talks, according to several lawmakers involved, are in their early phases. But they are a sign that, less than 24 hours into the shutdown, lawmakers are already looking for the way out of it.

Republicans involved in the bipartisan talks say that a framework for negotiations on the health insurance subsidies has come up, as well as a timeline for wrapping them up. Some Democrats want a deal by Nov. 1, when open enrollment starts for plans offered on Affordable Care Act exchanges. Linking it to the passage of a larger appropriations package after the shutdown fight has also been discussed.

But GOP senators said they are largely offering reassurances to Democrats that dozens of their members, and Thune, are willing to have a negotiation on the subsidies once the government is reopened under the House-passed continuing resolution.

Thune backed up that message Wednesday, reiterating in the interview that the GOP funding patch through Nov. 21 remains the only viable option: “Everybody wants a solution, wants a way out. But I don’t know how you do that absent opening up the government.”

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer continued Wednesday to push for a substantive negotiation on health care as 44 of the 47 members of the Democratic caucus remained behind him in a third vote against the House CR. Another five would have to break ranks to pass the bill.

Thune said in the interview that he believed Schumer is in a “tough spot” but that he hoped he would give rank-and-file Democrats “latitude” in their current discussions with Republicans.

Schumer, for his part, offered public support for the bipartisan Senate talks Wednesday, noting that he and other Democrats have been saying for weeks that Republicans need to talk to them.

While some Democratic lawmakers have warned they won’t vote for the stopgap bill unless a deal on extending the insurance subsidies is written into it, others have left the door open to an off-ramp that would fall short of that red line.

“One of the reasons probably why there are some of us in this camp is that there are Republicans telling us, ‘We agree with you. For our own interest, we have to fix this,’” Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who is involved in the talks, said Wednesday.

Thune, however, said he could not guarantee that a deal on extending the premium tax credits would be ready to be passed by Nov. 21, when the House stopgap would expire.

“I don’t know we can have a deal that could pass by then but I think there are … definitely discussions around things that could lead” to one, he said.

What to do about the soon-to-expire subsidies badly divides Republicans. Conservatives want to let them lapse at the end of the year. But a swath of House and Senate Republicans are open to extending them later this year with changes, such as new income limits, language aimed at preventing potential fraud and new minimum out-of-pocket premiums.

“What I can’t guarantee, of course, is an outcome and, in particular, one that would clear in the House, too,” Thune added. “The White House is another factor here. But I think everybody realizes we want solutions.”

Illinois Sen. Dick Durbin said Wednesday he was “overwhelmed” by Pope Leo XIV’s comments on his behalf, made this week after the Catholic Archdiocese of Chicago’s decision to honor the pro-abortion-rights Democrat for his immigration work sparked a backlash from conservatives.

The pontiff — a Chicago-area native who has voted in elections where Durbin was on the ballot — said “it’s important to look at the overall work that a senator has done” and said a politician should not be judged only on their stance on abortion.

“Someone who says, ‘I’m against abortion, but I’m in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants in the United States,’ I don’t know if that’s pro-life,” Leo told reporters Tuesday.

All the same, the Archdiocese announced Tuesday that Durbin had opted to decline the award. The senator explained in a brief interview Wednesday that while it was a “nice gesture,” he did not want to create further headaches for Chicago Archbishop Blase Cupich.

“There was a lot of controversy after he made that decision and criticism of him, and I basically told him that I respectfully decline the award,” he said. “I don’t need it, and he doesn’t, either.”

Anti-abortion advocates, including at least 10 U.S. bishops, condemned Cupich for the decision to honor Durbin, who is retiring next year after more than 40 years in Congress, at a Nov. 3 event.

Durbin is well known for his advocacy on behalf of immigrants, including his role as an original co-author of the DREAM Act — legislation that would grant undocumented immigrants who arrived in the U.S. as minors a path to legal status.